In this article, London-based drummer Nick Schlesinger covers his unique take on creating great new grooves and patterns using old and seemingly simple concepts (in this case, showing how far you can take a six stroke roll). You’ll see the drum transcriptions for each part of this lesson throughout the article below, or you can download the transcriptions all in one (as a PDF).
This lesson is based on one of Nick’s video lessons, which you can check out here:
Breaking New Ground With Old Ideas
By Nick Schlesinger
Letās level the playing field for a moment. As drummers weāre all in the same boat, always looking for ways to develop ourselves. We want to be better players and musicians, be it for teaching, performing, recording purposes, for our self-esteem, YouTube views, etc.
As a full-time drummer, getting better at the drums means being better at my jobs: teaching and doing remote sessions.
So when learning something new, no matter how complicated that thing might be, it helps me in the following ways:
- To get better at playing simple things: Because as a session drummer, artists mainly want a boom chack boom-boom chack that just feels good
- To better explain things to my students: Going through the process myself helps me better understand things that I can then relay to students effectively.

That said, whatever it is weāre learning, we should always focus on the 5 pillars of drumming:
- Time
- Technique
- Coordination
- Musicality
- Reading
Bang For The Buck
With that in mind, Iāve always been into the idea of getting the most juice out of what I already know. I mean, think about it, youāve mastered, say, the Single Paradiddle (i.e. RLRR LRLL) and got a couple of cool grooves out of it and think āOK, whatās next?ā. To me, thatās not value for money⦠Iāve spent all this time learning the Paradiddle just to get a couple of grooves and fills out of it? No way! I want my moneyās worth.
How do we do this? By going deep. So I wanted to share a few creative concepts to this end. Youāll be able to use these to turn something you already know into something unexpected with just a little creativity!
In this example, weāre going to turn the six stroke roll into a funky groove. If youāre not familiar with this rudiment, have a look at the following transcription:

Now, the focus here is to understand the concepts and process rather than the specific groove weāre creating. This will help you apply these to other things too!
Itās worth mentioning that Iām basing all of this stuff on content from my book Concepts, which has tons of great ideas for you to apply to your playing. You can get a copy here.
Concepts
The concepts and ideas weāre going to use in this lesson are the following:
- Changing subdivisions
- Swing vs. Straight feel
- Permutation
- Musical thinking
- Out of Place
Changing Subdivisions
This is a great way for you to approach something youāre familiar with and look at it differently. What I mean by changing subdivisions is, in essence, changing a sticking from, say, eighth notes to sixteenth notes, or perhaps from sixteenth notes to triplets, etc.
For the purpose of this lesson, I have taken a six stroke roll in its sextuplet form into straight sixteenth notes (see below). Note that I also decided to keep the result as one bar long. Why? Why not! Itās just an idea I had at the time.


Again, the point here is to let your imagination take you somewhere new!
As a side note, and not necessarily directly related to this example, but another idea similar to changing subdivisions, for instance, is to try things both with a straight feel as well as with swing. Rudiments, stickings, grooves, etc will sound and feel completely different depending on how you play them!
Permutation
The next concept I decided to apply in coming up with this groove is Permutation, a concept Tower Of Powerās David Garibaldi is well-known for. The great thing about permutation is that it lets you explore the same idea from, in this case, sixteen new different perspectives.
Put simply, permutation in this context means changing the order of the sticking weāll be playing.
This is great because weāre getting more deeply acquainted with something weāre already familiar with, and really squeezing a lot more juice out of it. You can apply this to your favourite licks/chops too. My suggestion would actually be to write the permutations down, as this is a great way to internalize them, but also to use a reference and keep track of things.
Notice how the accents move with every permutation. This makes for exciting possibilities when it comes to orchestrating our groove.
Letās explore the notation so far.

Letās give the groove shape by orchestrating it moving the right hand to the hi hats.

Musical Thinking
With regards to our hands, however hard we may work at making them even, weāll always have a dominant one. Thatās not necessarily a bad thing. That, to me, helps me pay attention to rhythms that each hand creates within a sticking, and that in turn helps me think musically. Based on those āmelodiesā I start hearing music in my head⦠And from there, a groove starts forming.
This, to me, is the stage where I start thinking about how Iāll shape a groove. In this case, as I heard funk in my head, thatās what dictated where I should be playing the bass drums. This also shaped the decision to turn the groove into a call-and-response 2 bar phrase, because I thought it important to start the groove strong on beats one⦠We want people to āshake they bootyā.
What we get is the following as the original groove (the ācallā bar):

And the second, āresponseā bar is as follows:

The two bar phrase then sounds like this:

Out Of Place
So youāre probably thinking thatās nothing new, and thatās fair enough. However, once youāve thought of your groove, why not try and hear the same musical idea in a different genre? How does that affect the groove youāve come up with?
This concept of placing something where it doesnāt belong is a great way to think creatively. So, the Funk groove in this example⦠How would it sound in a Drum and Bass song, or a Heavy Metal track? Sticking to the same sticking and accents, where would you, for instance, play the bass drums, what tempo would you play it?
Wrapping It Up
Now imagine what you could do if you started applying more concepts to the groove⦠How far could you take it? That question in itself is where great practice and creative development lies.
For more creative concepts to help you break new ground with old ideas, why not check out my book Concepts? Itās a neat guide full of inspiring ideas and resources for you to help make the most from your drumming.
Biography – Nicholas Schlesinger

Nick Schlesinger is a professional musician and drummer based in London, UK. He has a successful private teaching practice, and experience teaching students of wide-ranging skills and ages as well as neurodiverse students. He also records drums remotely for artists all over the world. Nick has published articles in magazines such as Modern Drummer, his book Concepts is published by Hudson Music, and also is the creator of the CHOPZzz pillowcase which has sold worldwide.
